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by manuelz » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:50 am

Hello everyone

this is a thread to discuss everything concerning the Calyos NSG S0 fanless chassis

You can ask questions, discuss ideas, post your planned PC-setup, ask for opinions and share whatever else you would like to discuss.

I'm a backer of the NSG S0 and I'm looking forward reading your ideas and inputs!

You can find the Kickstarter campaign here

Please post questions concerning the campaign directly in the comment section of the campaign.

A lot of questions are already covered in the official FAQ

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by manuelz » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:20 am

My planned setup (any inputs welcome):

Budget +- 2000 Euros

PSU Enermax Digifanless (550W) (arrived)
MB GA-AX370-Gaming K7 (ordered)
ram G.SKILL Flare X, 16GB (F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
ssd 1TB Samsung MZ-75E1T0B/EU 850 EVO internal SSD
CPU Ryzen 7 1700
GPU vega 10?
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by kwek4lyf » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:06 pm

I'm not sure how many others agree with me, but I'd like not to have any front ports as I think it ruins the clean look a bit, so it would be nice if you were able to choose one with no cutouts for them. For example, take a look at the MBX MKII case at https://xforma.com/mbx_mkii/
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by roix » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:53 pm

Pour kwek4lyf , un simple cache pourrais être la solution, je ne me vois pas me passé des port USB avant qui sont utiliser asser régulièrement.

Mon futur pc, Dur à dire car j’attends les carte Vega et les test qui iront avec.

Donc ce serais un truc du style

CPU Ryzen 1800x
Carte mère X370 probablement
Ram 16 ou +,
GPU à voir ce que Vega donnera
SSD Sandisk Extreme Pro 960Go probablement, peut-être un petit m.2, trop tôt pour le savoir.

récupération HDD 1 To, HDD 500 mo, SSD 128 Go ( à voir ce que je monterais )
récupération 4 petit ventillo rouge
récupération Alimentation modulable 750w gold ( j’espère que le cable ne sera pas trop court pour le power cpu )
récupération lecteur CD/DVD , je ne sais pas si je pourrais le mettre ^^
récupération d'un rhéobus 4 place, je ne sais pas si il y a de la place .

De toute façon, j'irais demander conseil pour harmoniser la config.
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by manuelz » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:19 pm

@roix

je suis pas sure pour le 1800x - je pense que j'ai pas besion parceque je fais pas du video ou streaming du tout... mais je veux etre sure d'avoir quelque chose pour la future.

x370 - pourquoi? on va pas utiliser les extra pcie pour SLI allor je ne voix pas comment ca va etre mieux qu'un b350

lecteur cd/dvd - vraiment? :D j'ai un lecteur dans mon pc maintenant et je l'utilise jamais. je voix pas comment on a besoin en 2017

aussi pour les HDD - je vais jusque utiliser les SSD pour mon nuveaux pc pour pas avoir des HDD qui fais du bruit. meme pour les ventillos

pour le psu j'ai un bon mais je veux alles tout passive, allors je dois acheter un nouveaux

pardon pour mon francais, c'est pas mon langue :) j'éspere qu'on peut comprendre

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I'm not sure for the 1800x - i dont think i'll need one since i dont stream or render videos. but i want to make sure i'm ready for the future - so i'm still not decided 100%

x370 - i dont see the point in a NSG S0 since we cant do SLI anyways - so whats the point of a x370?

CD/DVD - its 2017 - no need anymore for a dvd drive/burner. i have one in my current setup and never ever used it in 5 years

HDD - they make too much noise - i want a silent system - so SSD it is for me - i can recycle 1 ssd from my current setup, pluse a 1tb i will buy. i'm not gonna go for the pro though - not worth the price imho

psu i have a fairly new one from corsair, but i want to go full passive :)

sorry for my french - it sucks
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by roix » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:56 pm

@manuelz

V.O:

Pas de soucis, j'utilise aussi un traducteur automatique quand je dois parler en anglais.

Mes connaissance ne sont pas suffisant pour te conseiller des composants en fonction de tes attentes et de ton budget .

Ce que j'ai mis étais ce que j’envisageais de faire. Mon PC.


lecteur cd/dvd , car j'ai toujours 2 - 3 dvd qui traine. Et cela ma déjà dépanner quand mon pilote d'internet ne fonctionnais plus.

Pour les HDD, comme j'ai un peu de bruit ambiant, cela me feras de l'espace à pas chers.

Si tu veux du full passive, je comprend tout à fait cela.


Il n'y a pas le feu, on aura bien assez de temps pour faire son futur PC :D

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V.An;

No worries, I also use an automatic translator.

My knowledge is not enough to advise the components according to your expectations and your budget.

What I put was what I was planning to do. My PC.


Cd / dvd player, car I always have 2 - 3 dvd that drag. And this is already troubleshooting when my internet driver was no longer working.

For HDDs, as I have some ambient noise, this will make me space to cheap.

If you want passive total, I fully understand that.


There is no fire, we will have plenty of time to make his future PC: D
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by manuelz » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:02 pm

Non je n'utilise pas un traducteur - Cest tout moi :D
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by 8x8johan » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:06 pm

@manuelz
While we can't go SLI/CF, there are other perks to x370.
To name the most important ones:
- higher ram overclocks (both natively and through BCLK), something that is really important with Ryzen
- Better voltage regulation for the CPU (more stable CPU overclocks)
- More usb ports natively supported by CPU lanes
- USB C (although some B350 boards has this too)
These are the main perks, that lead me to prefer the x370 chipset, even given its much higher price.
There are many other bells and whistles that you can get, though, but that all depends on the specific model and manufacturer.
Depending on the motherboard:
- Clear CMOS
- Bios reset
- Dual bios
- More m.2 ports
- m.2 port
- Wifi
- Troubleshooting display
- Onboard power switch
- More RGB options (looking at you, gigabyte...)
- Better looks (arguably)
- Additional CPU power headers
- Ram/m.2 shield/armor
- Often better onboard audio
- Often better VRM cooling
- Better LAN (intel/killer gigabit, usually. There's even an Asrock board with 2gb capability)
- Better onboard temperature monitoring
- Other random stuff ruch as the 3D mounting points found on the ASUS Crosshair VI Hero, or the extra power connector for the PCI-E slots found on the MSI Titanium

TL:DR
You just get more stuff and high end features (depending on the specific board). Where you'd get the most value, is probably in the super high end boards (ASUS Crosshair, Gigabyte Gaming 5/K7, MSI Carbon/Titanium, Asrock Taichi/Fatality), since upgrading to something like the ASUS Prime would basically just give you SLI/CF (which we can't use), and slightly better overclocking of ram/cpu + a few extra fast usb ports.
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by mirog » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:02 pm

Expected input: in kit to come
I allready bought a psu from enermax on amazon.de because I expect a preis rise for the rare :
550W Enermax Digifanless EDF550AWN, 93% Eff', 80 PLUS Platinum, SLI/CrossFire, Full Modular, EPS 12V, Fanless, ATX PSU
This psu from june 2015 have 4 port for the PCI-e and a ZDPMS port so i can change voltage of everything live on screen for overclocking.
Will wait until the answer give to AMD Ryzen by Intel to buy couple Motherboard and CPU.
32 GB 3200mhz RAM i want
I will take a GTX 1080 TI from EVGA I think
I'm waiting for the m2 nvme 1TB 960 EVO or PRO SSD from samsung to come at lower price.
Budget without Calyos case 2600-2800€

I allready own a dual core fanless pc assembled in China.


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26°c room temperature, 105°c for max cores & package usually.


Actual fanless PC:
Intel i7-5557U dual core/four threads 3.1-3.4Ghz 4MB L3 28W TDP
16GB 1600Mhz DDR3L
Intel Iris 6100 - Dual HDMI 1.4b output dual 4K@30hz
256GB m2 Toshiba SSD (I think MLC)
960GB SATA Sandisk SSD TLC
4X USB 3.0, 4X USB2.0, 2x LAN 1000Mbs, Wifi n, Optical and jack, SD Card reader via internal USB 3.0
All in one fanless aircooling small form factor, completely silent
Stable in most conditions if I'm not asking for 3d performance ( Dxo Is not stable, lightroom I can disable, ... )
Dust-proof
But when room temperature > 32°c = problem sometimes in summer time PC hangs.
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by TJW » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:08 pm

kwek4lyf wrote:I'm not sure how many others agree with me, but I'd like not to have any front ports as I think it ruins the clean look a bit, so it would be nice if you were able to choose one with no cutouts for them. For example, take a look at the MBX MKII case at https://xforma.com/mbx_mkii/


As an owner of HDPLEX H5 and Lian-Li I am used to a clean minimalist yet functional design so I am totally with you. I would even get rid of the Calyos text everywhere and leave only the simple logo in the front center panel. They should separate the inner sliding rack from the front panel and make multiple versions w/out cutouts for both the front and side hdd rack.

As I wrote in my question today I am mainly really concerned about the dust collectiing in radiators. I can already see myself cleaning and dusting this case every weekend doh. I was even willing to wait out for the closed Workstation version because the internal layout make much more sense. Unfortunately they will probably not offer any new models until after this kickstarter will be completed and shipped.

Like what is the point of designing a sleek case with glass cover only to then ruin it with glued PCIe holder, where they can just make a PCie slot above the PSU and use extender PCIe cable? it would be facing upwards and use natural convection through the radiator fins.

The whole project seems a little rushed. They say they finalized the design but some parts are clearly not well thought out. I was expecting at least in the initial phase they would try to collect and incorporate suggestions from backers.

Oh well, sorry for the long rant.
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